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1:27 pm
August 27, 2009


Francis

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I was thinking about the Highways reply regarding the sign and that they can't consider using a product (vitreous enamel) that would resolve the problem because it wouldn't comply with the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions – well so what? Have a normal one with the name of the village on it that does and have an extra one with the stuff about the Normans which doesn't.

What's going to happen? Will the council fine its self for having a sign that doesnt comply? Or will it just continue to pay out to have one which will never beat the vandals replaced every few weeks until in the end someone says enough is enough and we dont have a sign at all?

I wonder if the previous sign built into a stone wall complied with the TSR&GD – I cannot find any reference to those type in the document – it is available on line if you want to have a look – also very useful to read if you get a parking fine, because if the lines and signs dont comply with the Act the fines are illegal and unefforcable (anyone care to take a guess as to how many of the double yellow markings and no parking signs in the village comply with the Act?)

7:27 pm
August 27, 2009


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We cannot understand why the council keep doing this, the signs are certainly not up to standard, so why keep doing them in the same material very baffling, unless there is a conflict of interests between the councillors and they are putting there point forward at whatever cost to the taxpayer. As to your comment on the stone sign we cannot see anything at all wrong with this as there are stone ones at Highmoor and the end of Green lane Westthorpe, so we dont see anything wrong with one fitted on the bridge site as they have set a precident with the other stone signs. We would also like the council to put there suggestions for the signs or other such decisions on the website, then people that have prior knowledge ie;( who make signs or who are stone masons or deal in vandal proof materials or can do a better deal for the council,) these people could put there suggestions on the site and give the council better ideas rather than just throwing money down the drain. It would only take a few minutes for the council to put the basic idea for the decision which they are going to make on the website, then Smilethey could take onboard the feedback from people posting rather than just looking at the council website where the decisions are made. 

10:05 am
August 28, 2009


Francis

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Manager said:

…there are stone ones at Highmoor and the end of Green lane Westthorpe, so we dont see anything wrong with one fitted on the bridge site as they have set a precident with the other stone signs. …. 


There was even one on the left handside of the bridge on Sheffield Road, until someone drove into it? Surely someone's insurance should have paid to have that one replaced, unless it was a hit and run?

4:52 pm
August 28, 2009


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Its about time the council listened to other peoples comments they seem to have big ego problems. If something does'nt work, you dont just do it again for the same thing to happen. I can remember the stone sign at the bridge I think you may be correct on the insurance point surely the council got paid out, if they were not insured there is an uninsured drivers fund they could have got some money off, we all pay it on our premiums but nobody is told this, I only found out after being hit by an uninsured driver.Smile

12:12 am
August 29, 2009


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Post edited 6:49 pm – August 30, 2009 by Manager


The council or the vandals have listened the sign has gone alltogether lets hope now they will listen to what the public say and save the council tax payer money  simple just communicate with each other it is not rocket science

12:12 am
August 29, 2009


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Post edited 11:16 pm – August 28, 2009 by Manager


The council or the vandals have listened, the sign has gone alltogether lets hope now they will listen to what the public say and save the council tax payer money,  simple, just communicate with each other it is not rocket science we have the perfect medium to do the job. Every local website should adopt the same criteria.

4:17 pm
September 1, 2009


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Post edited 3:18 pm – September 1, 2009 by Francis


Went to the East coast this weekend and saw some very nice name plate signs, full colour, vitreous enamel and definately dont comply with the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Direction but they looked very nice and welcoming

http://photos.travellerspoint&…..n-Sign.jpg

http://www.sign-update-magazin…..-Filey.jpg

5:33 pm
September 1, 2009


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Post edited 7:24 pm – September 14, 2009 by Manager


We have heard the new sign is going to be special, lets hope it is'nt like the Emperor's new clothes invisible. 

2:48 pm
September 10, 2009


Francis

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Manager said:

We have heard the new sign is going to be special, lets hope it is'nt like the Emperor's new clothes invisible.Smile


It's still invisible – I never know if I'm home or not. They must be doing something really special to the replacement – been gone 2 weeks now. I miss it Cry

7:47 pm
September 10, 2009


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Post edited 7:26 pm – September 14, 2009 by Manager


We think its hollographic, all you have to do is wait till its foggy then it appears through the haze. There is a new one on the drawing board lets hope its a good one this timeLaugh The sign is now going to have a vandal proof coating on it dont think so.

10:19 pm
September 10, 2009


SipsiCymreig

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Post edited 9:22 pm – September 10, 2009 by SipsiCymreig


Maybe the sign has come back!

 They've just moved Killamarsh but not leaked the documentation for fear of an invasion of dead heads to deface anymore of the village,or maybe our illustrious council are just pondering how to raise the council tax to pay for it!Or maybe no one's told them yet!Or maybe they've forgot,or just don't give a S**T!


6:58 pm
September 11, 2009


whiskyman

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Or were in a parrallel Universe where another village has idiots running it, who dont give a tossYell

10:00 pm
September 12, 2009


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Post edited 9:05 pm – September 12, 2009 by SipsiCymreig


Now THAT! Does sound like Killamarsh.

Or is it that all our councilors are re-incarnations? Surely no-one can get that stupid in just ONE lifetime.

8:31 am
September 13, 2009


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We were out at the Rock night at the Leisure centre (which was a good night by the way, ) and some residents were talking about the sign and one of them suggested a half of winding wheel with just KILLAMARSH  on it, in cast iron. It maybe a good idea as the vandals would find it difficult to break and it would remind people that we were once a mining village. We know half winding wheels have been done before but there a safe bet any comments are welcome.Laugh

10:20 am
September 14, 2009


Francis

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I'd think that would be a much more sensible reference to the village heritage – be more relevant to many people in the village that the Normans.  Though I doubt there's a shop with old pit-head mine wheels on the shelf, would imagine they'd have been broken up for scrap by now.

Anyone care to make a new half? We've got a couple of small fabrication companies in the village.

7:47 pm
September 14, 2009


whiskyman

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They have still got half winding wheels at the Barrow hill museum purchase that, and then get somebody like Ross and Catheralls to cast the Killamarsh part then local Builders to set it in concrete jobs a good un. Does'nt have to be expensive like the last ones just beg steel or borrow ,I would think if the council payed for materials the builders would relish the chance to put the sign up for nothing(maybe cheap rates)Smile

8:28 pm
September 14, 2009


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Post edited 7:53 pm – October 10, 2009 by Manager


The sign is being coated again with a vandal proof coating dont think so, keep an eye out for how long it lasts.Smile

7:33 pm
October 21, 2009


SipsiCymreig

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Post edited 6:34 pm – October 21, 2009 by SipsiCymreig


Noticed the other day the sign going from Killamarsh to Spinkhill must have been done by the same incompetents as the sign coming into Killamarsh from Halfway, letters disappearing, maybe this is just another one or do they ALL want re-doing? If so at what cost and to whom?

10:25 pm
October 21, 2009


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Yes we have been in touch with the council but no reply yet. We at rroka think the signs are partly done in invisible ink, as you know it wears off after time and comes back when it gets wet, we also think the council get forgers to do the signs with mystical subliminal messages hidden in the words, so when residents read them it reads VOTE FOR CHARLEY AND HIS DARLINGS YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.  FrownLaughYell



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