Armistice does'nt say 2.30pm in Killamarsh we should get it correct for the Fallen show respect from the offset we are teaching the youth of today that it was a different time.

At 0530 hours on the 11th November 1918 Erzberger gave his consent to the conditions. Foch signed the document for the Allies and then Erzberger on behalf of the German Government. Signals were immediately sent out to the Allied commands:

The Armistice was to take effect at 11 o'clock, on the 11th day, of the 11th month.

Foch himself set out with the document for Paris

It was a cold wet and miserable day. At La Pierre d'Haudroy, Bugler Corporal Sellier who had first met the delegation a few days earlier and sounded a cease fire then, now sounded the end of the war to end all wars.

Half an hour later Erzberger and his delegation left the Forest of Compiègne on their way back to Tergnier where they were met by their own vehicles.

Post edited 1:07 pm – November 16, 2011 by Francis

As to teaching the children of today the correct time? I suggest that it should be compulsory for every school age child to visit the Menin Gate in Ypres, Belgium.  At 8pm every single day of the week the traffic passing under the memorial stops and single or a group of buglers sound the Last Post, they have every day since 1928. The only time this did not occur was during the occupation in the second world war, the bugles being hidden for this period. On the evening that Ypres was liberated, the bugles were brought out of hidding and sounded again.

Members of the band attended and played at a moving ceremony at the Menin Gate in August this year, laying a wreath and were honoured to be asked to play additional music after the evening service.

The ceremony is a solemn occasion, and therefore not intended as entertainment or a tourist attraction. The buglers usually remain at the scene for a short while after the ceremony, at which point appreciation can be expressed in person; it is not considered appropriate to applaud during, or after, the ceremony. The band received a spontanteous round of applause for its performance at the instigation of the principal organiser of the daily event.

The Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing is a war memorial in Ypres, Belgium dedicated to the commemoration of British and Commonwealth soldiers who were killed in the Ypres Salient of World War I and whose graves are unknown. The memorial is located at the eastern exit of the town and marks the starting point for one of the main roads out of the town that led Allied soldiers to the front line. Designed by Sir Reginald Blomfield and built by the British government, the Menin Gate Memorial was unveiled on 24 July 1927. It is inscribed with the names of 54,896 soldiers.

Manager said:

Thanks for the info, I would like to add if it did'nt leave you with a lump in your throat at Menin gate your a hard man been twice and lump appeared everytime they do do it on time and it is very moving..

 

I don't believe I said anything about not being moved by either the place or the ceremony. We also spent a morning at the Tyne Cot cemetery nearly 13,000 gravestones, and I defy anyone not to be moved by that.  That is why I suggested that this area of Belgium and Northern France should be visited by every school child in the country.

 

So we appear to be agreed on the significance of the place and the importance of its memory but please just accept the practicalities of when the event is held in Killamarsh. It is not a slur on anyone's memory that it takes place in the afteroon.

Do you just post stuff on here to wind people up, because you are doing a good job at it.  Yes its a shame it doesn't happen at 11am on either the 11th or the nearest Sunday – however in Killamarsh its been that way for more than two generations.  Perhaps you might like to find out why it was held in the afternoon? 

For many years the event was organised by The Royal British Legion and attendance became less and less it is only since the Afghan conflict that numbers have increased. The Legion gave up the organising and handed it on to the Parish Council about 10 years ago.

I have no idea why you consider that the people who turned up in the afternoon (many of whom also where in attendance somewhere else in the morning) should feel ashamed?I didn't and I doubt anyone else did, perhaps you were the only one standing there thinking I wish this had been at 11am.  The service was held with all the due reverence and the silence was observed.  Some of the village gave their respects and the dead were honoured.

 If I remember it was the old silver band that had the time changed quite a number of years ago something about the marching and playing I think, will have to ask around. As to the time it should now be put back to the correct time as you dont turn up at 2.30 for an 11.00 o clock appointment its all over.

Sorry but random thing, the march i have been told did start at the old cinema (Doctors surgery to me and you) and then the march as you said. am i right or wrong ?

YIS

Joshua

Ty im talking to my grandad and he said it started at the cineama and i didnt know where it was but you just clearified my point. Thanks Franis u rock, Rest of you 2.30 is fine in fact better for me so i can do more then one march now leave it alone, if you get the time changed i will have no happyness in the event thats what makes us special. Killamarsh ROCKS and no one can change that.

YIS

Joshua